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**spoiler alert** *Spoilers for this book. If you've already read it - read on.* The Violent Bear It Away is a slow burn. It starts out slow. So much s **spoiler alert** *Spoilers for this book. If you've already read it - read on.* The Violent Bear It Away is a slow burn. It starts out slow. So much slower than her short stories - because it can, I guess - and because the form of short stories force development. But then it becomes an all-consuming fire. Afterwards, you look around and ask yourself: what the hell did Flannery O'Connor just do? Why like this? This isn't the way it's supposed to be. I keep thinking about The Violent Bear It Away, and the violence that goes hand in hand with the swift mercy of Christ crucified. And how Catholic that is. My friend asked me what I meant by, "how Catholic that is..." There's a famous line at the end of the book, “He knew that this was the fire that had encircled Daniel, that had raised Elijah from the earth, that had spoken to Moses and would in the instant speak to him. He threw himself to the ground and with his face against the dirt of the grave, he heard the command. GO WARN THE CHILDREN OF GOD OF THE TERRIBLE SPEED OF MERCY. The words were as silent as seeds opening one at a time in his blood.” -242 And so: we talked about the "terrible speed of mercy" - and what the heck she meant by that. My friend said, "Yeah... but... ... ...he still MURDERED a child... I'm not sure how we talk ourselves around that..." And I've been thinking a lot about it. And why I said how particularly Catholic that sounded to me. I texted him this, back.: "Just that Christ remains crucified on the Catholic cross. To the point that it almost supersedes his coming off of it. That the Passion is the apex - more so than the resurrection. That’s not a wholesale or completely fair criticism, but the frame of the argument is there." Then we had a bit of a back-and-forth. It was good. I listened to several podcasts about the book after reading it. I loved them all. But there was one that interviewed a few Catholic priests who had read the book, and they were talking about the things that offended Protestants, and the whole time during the conversation, I was thinking, "What the heck are these guys even talking about? Not one of the things they listed would bother any denomination REMOTELY." So, I realize there's probably some Catholic out there reading this who is like, "this kid thinks we don't care about the resurrection? What is he ON?" So, I just got asked this question. Moments ago. Well, it was framed as a statement: "It's why I always want to have at length conversations with serious believers about her, around the question of whether or not she accomplished what she set out to do with her writing." So the question is, "Did she?" I wonder, sometimes, who she was criticizing. There's another line in the book that we discussed a lot: "After a pause he continued. The way I see it, he said, you can do one of two things. One of them, not both. Nobody can do both of two things without straining themselves. You can do one thing or you can do the opposite. Jesus or the devil, the boy said. No no no, the stranger said, there ain't no such thing as a devil. I can tell you that from my own self-experience. I know that for a fact. It ain't Jesus or the devil. It's Jesus or you." -39 It's really the second part of the quote that we focused on, but I like the first part so much, too, that I had to include it. We came up with three connections, here: 1: The old line that "the greatest lie the devil ever told was that he doesn't exist." 2: In order to truly accept Christ, you have to die to self. 3: A criticism of humanism.... I *think* that was the third one. It's been a month since our discussion... But here's the weird thing that I didn't pick up on when I read it. I didn't even... I didn't even - go back and reread the first lines of the book, if you've just finished. I didn't even catch that it was revealed to us immediately. It was one of those - what was revealed at the end was actually there all along. But it didn't help that the voice in his head was the devil. His friend, who was also kind of not really there. So, please forgive me for missing it. That friend just said, "But isn't that ultimately the choice? What was Lucifers choice before there even was a devil?" And, "I see the devil's work largely as just getting people to replicate his own fall. Get more and more people to say they will take for the self the honor and reverence due to God " Another quote from that "friend" in the book was, "And as for Judgement Day, the stranger said, every day is Judgement Day." - 46 And it really, really is, no? And even if the end of the world isn't nigh - the end of YOUR world is nigh. Flannery O'Connor is usually so funny in her writing - and she's got moments of that in here, as well. The obese uncle telling his nephew that just before he dies, he'll sprint down the stairs so and die as close to the grave as possible, so that he can just be rolled in. And that if his belly protrudes from the coffin a little too much, well.... Some of her dark humor was still in there. But mostly this was just dark. It was a baptism by water and by fire. It was the woe to those who call on the day of the LORD. It's a reminder that the day of the LORD is a day of darkness, and not of light. ...more |
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Vonnegut comes crashing through the fourth wall in this out-there novel(?) about... about... a car salesman... kind of? At one point, my father-in-law Vonnegut comes crashing through the fourth wall in this out-there novel(?) about... about... a car salesman... kind of? At one point, my father-in-law listed this as his favorite book. When I let him know I (finally) chose it for book club, I was surprised to find him a bit chagrinned, giving an addendum, "well, I read it in college, so..." before trailing off. When I got to the pictures of the shaved-beavers, I understood. This review's about to get PG-13. Sorry about that. You've been warned: [image] Now, if certain people read this review, you can count on this book getting pulled from high school libraries... Apologies to the Vonnegut estate. Postmodernism is weird. I think, by definition, it's weird. All artists insert themselves into their work - this even before postmodernism. Sometimes well, well before. And not just literature and cinema: [image] But Vonnegut INSERTS himself in here. ("That person was me.") Or when the protagonist talks about the suicide of his mother, and Vonnegut interjects about the suicide of his mother as well. And so but, you can tell that Vonnegut is pulling from the stories that preceded him, and after reading enough postmodern lit, really trace the path through who all followed. Postmodernism is sometimes an excuse for bad writing, and that's okay. ...For instance, There in the cocktail lounge, the pill and the alcohol gave me a terrific sense of urgency about explaining all the things I hadn't explained, yet, and hurtling on with my tale. It felt a bit like the Will Ferrell movie, Stranger Than Fiction, if the producers had taken out all the wackadoodle parts. ...And maybe that's exactly what they did. Little things made the book great and interesting. Little concepts. A truck going into Philadelphia is then PART of Philadelphia. That anything inside of a thing is a part of that thing if it wants to be part of that thing. And flunking people for not using proper English, but failing to realize that if the rules of grammar were put down 200 years on either side: that we're the ones who make the rules. There's a line in Don Quixote, "Finally, from too little sleep and too much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind." I feel like that maybe happened to our protagonist here... and maybe to Vonnegut himself. I don't feel adequate enough to give this book a proper review. It's too weird. Everything about it is too weird. But I guess it's weirdness that is pushing humanity forward. Or backward. Definitely pushing us, though. ...more |
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For book-keeping purposes, and for when I want to go back and think my thoughts, here are my reviews of the other two times I read it: Stephen Mitchell For book-keeping purposes, and for when I want to go back and think my thoughts, here are my reviews of the other two times I read it: Stephen Mitchell's Translation David Ferry's Translation And now I've given Andrew George's translation a shot. George's translation was interesting to me for what it added by what it intentionally lacked. I wrote this in my David Ferry review: "The biggest take-away I had from the reread was noting where things were different. The order of several events was completely changed around. There's a note in the text about the tablets being "fragmentary" and having to be pieced together. I don't understand enough about cuneiform to know how that would work, but my hat's off to those who do." Both Ferry and Mitchell filled in those gaps through various means. George did not. He had various methods of letting us know that there were gaps, and how big they were - for example, opening to a random page - The Standard Version, Tablet X, 278-281: "'Have thought for him, Gilgamesh,......, [who is] their master, as many as ......? .............. ...the moon and the gods [of the night.]" For longer breaks, it might say something like this (or exactly this - on page 71 of this translation): "When the text resumes after a lacuna, Gilgamesh is explaining his quest." - Lacuna = "a missing portion in a book or manuscript." The Appendix - From Tablet to Translation - was very helpful in understanding the process of translating cuneiform - including pictures and diagrams, notes on the method, and explanations of where the hiccups were. We all know that translating is already a tricky business - but translating multiple dead languages (and the cuneiform script isn't just like... you know... one language - just like the Latin alphabet isn't just one language...) - many of which had been neglected by academia for centuries. Well... tricky is an understatement. But really: just how much was missing from certain passages was stunning and heartbreaking. Tablet VIII, for example, starting at line 95. You don't get that from translations that fill in the blanks to add to the readability of the text. To be able to go back and live a few moments in an ancient civilization - what we could learn that we're only guessing at now. Even in our own cultures, we get so much wrong - ambiguity of actions, and subtexts and dog whistles some people get, where others don't. But I digress. Everything I got from my first two readings of Gilgamesh I maintain here. The friendship, and love, adventure honor and conquest. The fear of death and search for immortality. Those lessons all hold true. But additional thoughts, of course, appeared. What was the relationship between Huwawa and Enkidu before Enkidu's transformation. (Interestingly, I started writing trans, and couldn't think of the word. ...Transgression was the first I came up with - and maybe it works. Perhaps it's better. I also (thanks to Calvin and Hobbes) thought of Transmogrification - which may also be appropriate. Was it antagonistic? Enkidu seemed to get along with the animals? Maybe he got along with Huwawa as well? (Side note: I actually prefer Humbaba - and now I'm pretty clear on the difference - just... you know... when they were written, which version, etc...) But for Enkidu to recognize Humbaba as a trickster, and HE be the one to push for the death blow. Again: I would love to live a couple days in Ancient Ur and see if the scholars and scribes have any insight there. Furthermore, this translation lists Humbaba as "the deluge." Here: "...Humbaba, his voice is the Deluge." And this: Adad, ranks first, and Humbaba second. - As we know, Adad is the Mesopotamian storm god. And knowing what we know about the story arc Gilgamesh, what does it mean that Humbaba's voice is the deluge? Some parts struck me as funnier than I remember - Gilgamesh calling Ishtar out, for instance: "Hey, let's look at how you treated your other husbands, the get back with me about why I might not want to marry you." Or Uta-Napitshtim to Gilgamesh when Gilgamesh is talking about overcoming death, "...Dude... you can't even like... overcome sleep. ...Why don't you give that a try first." Gauntlet thrown. And mental notes hung around - I think of Stephen Mitchell's request that we think of Shamat as a "reverse nun" rather than "temple harlot" or "temple prostitute" - terms which the other translations make frequent use of. And when I reread various translations, it's fun to see how they approach beloved passages: Ferry: "Time after time the river has risen and flooded. The insect leaves the cocoon to live but a minute." George: 'Ever the river has risen and brought us the flood, the mayfly floating on the water. On the face of the sun its countenance gazes, then all of a sudden nothing is there!' (Tablet X:315) Nobody (at least, nobody that I know of) is claiming that Gilgamesh is scripture. However, like scripture, there are passages that you can come back to again and again and again and think over and ponder and gain wisdom from. It's also noting how much of Gilgamesh overlaps with passages many people do consider scripture. The flood being the most obvious. But also lines like this, "From that time we swore by the life of heaven and the life of earth, from that time we swore that mankind should not have life eternal." I mean, how can one read those lines and not think immediately back to Genesis 3:22? "And the Lord God said, 'The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.'” I'm certain to come back to this again. Perhaps the N.K. Sanders seminal 1960 translation. (The N stands for Nancy.) One last thing to add here: this translation had a lot - a lot of bonus material. While the other two translations I read more or less consolidated the material (and Mitchell gives some really good reasons for this and his purpose in his translation) this translation gave us all the puzzles with the pieces missing. So, this was the Epic of Gilgamesh, but really it was many tellings of that tale. Also, there were some extra writings - like Gilgamesh in the Netherworld. (There was a really, reaallly funny passage in there where Gilgamesh was warning Enkidu about how to behave in the Netherworld:
... ... ... ... ...Yep. You guessed it. Enkidu did literally everything Gilgamesh warned him not to do. I mean, I could see one or two, but ALL OF THEM? It makes one wonder if it wasn't intentional. ...And maybe it was. If you're looking to read this, I'd start with Mitchell's translation. But I'm glad I read this one as well. ...more |
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This is the highest-rated book my book club has read. It's currently sitting at a 4.48 star rating with 160,105 ratings. No joke. That's insane. And w
This is the highest-rated book my book club has read. It's currently sitting at a 4.48 star rating with 160,105 ratings. No joke. That's insane. And we've read some great, great books. We're sitting at 102, currently - and there have been some AMAZING books in there. Here's our list, don't act like you're not interested. We haven't met to discuss it yet, but we will soon - hopefully. So, I don't know if everybody is loving it, or pissed that I've foisted a nearly thousand page Pulitzer-winning tome on them. Either way, I'm glad I chose it. I've chosen some really mediocre books for this group, so even if they all hated it, I feel like I've redeemed myself, because I loved it.* Also, as it's a Western: I'll be providing whiskey at the next book club meeting, so hopefully that wins some of them over. But honestly, if this book didn't win them over on its own merits they can get the heck out. *(Though, to be fair, the majority of good books I've chosen were initially recommended by my wife - as was the case for this one. She knows what she's doing.) ...more |
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"Even now I haven't finished sorting it out. Sometimes I forgive myself, other times I don't." "And sometimes remembering will lead to a story, which m "Even now I haven't finished sorting it out. Sometimes I forgive myself, other times I don't." "And sometimes remembering will lead to a story, which makes it forever. That's what stories are for. Stories are for joining the past to the future. Stories are for those late hours in the night when you can't remember how you got from where you were to where you are. Stories are for eternity, when memory is erased, when there is nothing to remember except the story." "In a way, I guess, she's right: I should forget it. But the thing about remembering is that you don't forget." "The bad stuff never stops happening: it lives in its own dimension, replaying itself over and over." "All of us, I suppose, like to believe that in a moral emergency we will behave like the heroes of our youth, bravely and forthrightly, without thought of personal loss or discredit." "Looking back after twenty years, I sometimes wonder if the events of that summer didn't happen in some other dimension, a place where your life exists before you've lived it, and where it goes afterward. None of it ever seemed real." "In any war story," *or story dealing with trauma* "but especially a true one, it's difficult to separate what happened from what seemed to happen." And just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just. O'Brien writes that this isn't a war story... it's a postwar story... "Going After Cacciato was a war story; "Speaking of Courage" was a postwar story." And what is a postwar story if not a post-trauma story? O'Brien really hit on something here. Once upon a time, there was a man who went crazy. He lived in a country where craziness was outlawed, and found himself slapped with 18 felony counts of being crazy. He asked - in a classroom full of high school students - if he could get fired for saying "fuck." At the deposition, the lawyer asked, "Is it appropriate to say, 'fuck' in the classroom?" "No," said the man, in whose classroom this happened. "But your wife teaches this book, and it says 'fuck' but I bet you're not asking her that question in such a loaded fashion. I bet you're not suggesting she resign because Tim O'Brien said 'fuck' in her classroom." Lawyer: "We asked her to submit her letter of resignation only this morning." You write a book to try to get at it. To capture whatever it is that they just don't understand. And they don't understand. And please God and praise God they'll never understand. ...more |
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Call me Dick. Some of my fellow book club members probably did when I told them this was my choice. But I see Moby Dick everywhere, and I figured it w
Call me Dick. Some of my fellow book club members probably did when I told them this was my choice. But I see Moby Dick everywhere, and I figured it was past time for me to have read it. Take a few recent examples (go ahead and click the links, they're funny): The Simpsons, Seinfeld, Family Guy, Parks and Rec, Last Man on Earth, The Life Aquatic... Bill Murray's quote in The Life Aquatic is great. He's talking about this really elusive Leviathan that he's named "The Jaguar Shark" when he's asked what the scientific purpose of killing it would be. His answer? "Revenge." And we'll probably talk about Jaws later. How Moby Dick was a great white whale, and Jaws was a Great White shark. The crews were after very specific monstrously large maritime animals that seemed to have their own will... We discussed "the hunt" as a type of story quite a bit today - be it The Maltese Falcon, The Lost Ark, Moby Dick, or Jaws. Hopefully I remember to come back to it. (For myself, if not for you...) You'll find Moby Dick in places you expect, as I did the last time I bought a book from Barnes & Noble: [image] (view spoiler)[(Incidentally, this isn't my bag, though I did get one. I took this one from this blog.) (hide spoiler)] But also in places you don't expect. Like every time I walk past a bulletin board at Goshen College and see this picture: [image] ...And sure, maybe you say: that's not Moby Dick. ...That could be ANY white whale. Obviously. And The Weepies album "Hideaway" doesn't show Moby Dick either, but the point is one can't see a white whale without thinking of him. [image]. And their song, "Can't Go Back Now" has a certain melancholy Moby feel to it. Huh... So Moby (the melancholy DJ) is related to Herman Melville. ...I did not know that. (view spoiler)[Consider this quote from Ishmael: “As for me, I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas, and land on barbarous coasts.” And compare it to this line from The Weepies' "Can't Go Back Now": "I can't really say why everybody wishes they were somewhere else. But in the end the only steps that matter are the ones you take all by yourself. And you and me walk on, walk on, walk on - cause you can't go back now." Maybe those are feelings universal to us all. And maybe it's a stretch to connect them, but for some of us a wisp is all you need. (hide spoiler)] ...Several of the books I read last year were compared to Moby Dick in some way. (Most notably, American Pastoral by Philip Roth, and Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy.) Also, I'll add that we decided to have our meeting Starbucks before I knew that it was named after the First Mate of The Pequod... from Moby Dick. ...Obviously... I'm under the assumption that there's no spoiling this story. I'm assuming that you know going in what's going to happen. ...So I'm not including spoiler tags. If you continue to read, it will be at your own risk. Like whaling. (Spoiler: I hope your outcome is better.) Think about the opening line: My sister teaches opening sentences to high school students. You know, the hook, blah, blah, blah. Oh, there's another reference I just remembered: [image] Underneath it said something like, "Herman Melville was stricken with writer's block." Anyway, my sister and I talked about this one for a while. How maybe his name isn't Ishmael. He says, "Call me Ishmael," not, "My name is Ishmael." So, he's setting himself up as an unreliable narrator. (As all narrators are...) But we also have to take into account that the Ishmael of the Bible was the one God turned from. He and his mother Hagar didn't receive the blessings of Abraham - at least not in the way Isaac did. They were cast into the desert - alone. There's so much packed into that first sentence. (Which is what makes Larson's Far Side cartoon so funny.) There's too much foreshadowing and symbolism to get into here. This is a simple review written by some random unpaid guy on the internet, not an introduction to the book. But the ship is named after a nation of extinct Native Americans? They're riding on a ship named for a group of people where everyone in the group has died. Let alone the other significant names and references in the book: Rachel, the albatross, Elijah... And lines like this one, "Seems to me we are lashing down these anchors now as if they were never going to be used again." And you look and see that you don't have many pages left. You don't have to be a Melville scholar to figure out where he's taking you. The sentences, the symbolism, the foreshadowing, the imagery. I love it all. Several quotes in relation to Ahab particularly stood out. When Starbuck confronts Ahab and tries to reason with him - Ahab's having none of it, and is getting ready to ...punish... him for mutiny - Starbuck says, "Thou has outraged, not insulted me, sir; but for that I ask thee not to beware of Starbuck; thou wouldst laugh; but let Ahab beware of Ahab; beware of thyself, old man." That's an indictment on all monomaniacal, dictatorial demagogues. Where power and vision have been replaced by obsession. Or, "...for they regarded it, not as a foreshadowing of evil in the future, but as the fulfillment of an evil already presaged..." By the time the "little" bad stuff starts happening - the ominous signs about who Ahab really is - we can't say, "Oh, man... this is foreshadowing some bad stuff about to happen." No. It's the beginning of the fulfillment of what you signed up for when you went along with what Ahab was offering. You knew from the beginning. There are so. many. good. parts. Earlier today I went through and liked a ton of quotes from it here on goodreads. I think they show up at the end of the review. The biggest criticism we see is that he talks about whales too much. (This was the criticism leveled against American Pastoral, as well - except with gloves instead of whales.) And Melville does talk about whales a lot. But I found it fascinating. At no point was I like... uggggg... 200 more pages on cetology. Not only that, but another member said it was his favorite part of the book. His point was that it's interesting to become that knowledgeable about something. Today, what do we know? A little bit about everything. But SO much goes into everything. He recently became interested in baking - bread specifically. Reading those sections made him think about the different types of grain, growing and milling the grain, what happens to the dough as it's mixed. Yeast. No yeast. What happens to it in the oven. There's just so much. While those parts weren't my favorite in the book, I enjoyed them. And my friend's point was well taken. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the first hour of our meeting we discussed some of the homo-eroticism that seemed to flow through the book. How much of it was meant to be there? How much of it did we read into it? I knew the book was about a sperm whale named Moby Dick, but... I didn't realize two guys were going to be cuddling overnight in a big bed within the first couple chapters. Chapter Four: "Upon waking next morning about daylight, I found Queequeg's arm thrown over me in the most loving and affectionate manner. You had almost thought I had been his wife." There's a lot, and a lot's been made of that section. And we talked about sailors, and prisoners. That episode of The Sopranos and the homophobic mob talking about the difference between being gay and being in prison. But that's not the only section. I didn't see anything in my commentary about the relationship between Ahab and Pip, but that also seemed... non-traditional. And we talked about the Greeks and Greek instruction. And how much is read into a section like this, Squeeze! squeeze! squeeze! all the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed that sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers' hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules. Such an abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally; as much to say,- Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we no longer cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill-humor or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all around; nay, let us all squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness. I don't actually have a lot to say about all that, except that it's there - and I had no idea. And apparently a lot of people have already discussed it. Finally, I knew I was going to choose this book for a couple years now. And a couple years ago, at Christmas my wife got me this shirt from Litographs. [image] But then we didn't read it, and we didn't read it. (I had to pick two other books first.) And we didn't read it. ...There are a bunch of us in the club, and a single rotation to get back to your pick takes about a year. And then THIS Christmas, Liz got me a new Moby Dick shirt from Out of Print Clothing. [image] It was quite the dilemma. ...(view spoiler)[I wore the new one. (hide spoiler)] *Edit* Two days after I wrote this review, I started reading 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea with my daughter Eleanor. I didn't want to start it with her until after I'd finished Moby Dick. I was worried they were similar enough that I would get them confused in my mind... She was even more thrilled than I was when we got to this line on page 4: "There appeared in the papers, which ran out of copies, pictures of every gigantic and imaginary creature, from the white whale, the terrible "Moby Dick" of hyperborean regions, to the immense kraken whose tentacles, it was said, could entangle a ship of five hundred tons, and plunge it to the bottom of the ocean." ...She knew I was reading it, and often asked me what page I was on. If anybody out there see other references to Moby Dick out there, let me know in the comments. I'd love to add them to the review. ...Especially funny ones. **Edit number 2: I made a youtube playlist of sea-songs and shanties that I listened to while reading the book. Check it out here. If you can think of any other songs that I should put on the list, let me know that, too. I'm always for hearing and learning about new songs. *** Edit number 3: After reading the book and writing the review, I went through and read several friend reviews. One of the ones I read was Luann's. Once a while back we were in the same LOST book clubs. (Online here on goodreads.) LOST constantly referenced literature. The third season extras had a feature called "The LOST Book Club" or something like that... I remembered Moby Dick being referenced a couple times, but going to the LOST wiki pages, I couldn't find the episodes to link to, so I left them out the review. It's worth adding in. LOST may have been the catalyst for the book making its way onto my to-read shelf in the first place. ...more |
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Instead of writing a review, I'm going to put down some thoughts and things I looked up while reading this book. Palimpsest: a manuscript or piece of w Instead of writing a review, I'm going to put down some thoughts and things I looked up while reading this book. Palimpsest: a manuscript or piece of writing material on which the original writing has been effaced to make room for later writing but of which traces remain. [image] "Time isn't circular," she said to Dr. Kellet. "It's like a... palimpsest." "Oh dear," he said. "That sounds very vexing." (Page 506) [image] "All those names," Teddy said, gazing at the Cenotaph. "All those lives. And now again. I think there is something wrong with the human race. It undermines everything one would like to believe in, don't you think?" (Page 446) (The picture comes from Sedlec Ossuary. Czech it out.) "Something wicked this way comes. And the something was herself." (Page 189) That line is from Shakespeare's famous Scottish Play. (The author, Atkinson is apparently living in Edinburgh, but that's of little significance to the bigger connection.) The line is also the title of a Ray Bradbury novel. Let's go to a little synopsis from wikipedia: "One of the events in Ray Bradbury's childhood that inspired him to become a writer was an encounter with a carnival magician named Mr. Electrico who commanded him to "Live forever!" The 12-year-old Bradbury, intrigued at the concept of eternal life, revisited Mr. Electrico, who spurred his passion for life by heralding him as the reincarnation of a friend lost in World War I. After that memorable day, Bradbury began writing nonstop." There are tons and tons of literary references throughout the book. They're bound to be compiled somewhere. I loved them. "She thought of Ibsen's Nora slamming the door behind her. Nora wouldn't have gone in for dramatic gestures if she had been trying to escape Derek Oliphant." (Page 236) ...How is it I still haven't read any Ibsen? Somebody please judge me. Be harsh. I won't be compiling any more after this next one. I just wanted to say that I was glad I finally got around to reading Streetcar. Seriously, like a month or two ago. "What was Tennessee William's line - the kindness of strangers? Millie's swan song on the stage... was to play Blanche DuBois..." "Mrs. Glover rolled her eyes like a discontented cow. She was 'avoiding crowds' on account of the influenza epidemic." (Page 81) ...Such foreshadowing... every time - even the first. (Of course, I'm not sure it counts as foreshadowing before the second, third, and dozenth times.) [image] (Boy, that looks good, doesn't it?) "Lunch was boiled toad in the hole and a queen of puddings." (Page 79) [image] "It reminded Ursula of her grandmother, Adelaide, who spent her days swathed in black, sipping Madeira." (Page 38) (Book club has been good to me. It was because of John Adams that I first had Madeira. ...And last had Madeira.) Book quote: "The Fuhrer was different, he was consciously making history for the future." (Page 351) John Green quote: "Hitler is the rare individual who really did make history - specifically he made it worse.” (Crash Course World History #38) A huge part of me wants to write a legitimate review, but I had such a good time discussing it that the desire has been somewhat assuaged. Two last thoughts from our discussion: we can never be sure which of our seemingly little decisions will influence us for the rest of our lives... And of course our big decisions. *Moderate spoiler here. It shouldn't spoil anything past page 10...* We pull for characters in a book. Conflict creates tension that we want them to overcome. Sometimes characters risk injury or death - and we worry about them. That wasn't the case with this book. It was an obstacle that the author had to overcome due to the nature of the story she was writing. It's interesting to see how she addressed that as a writer. (I wish I could claim this thought as my own.) And of course, there's always this. It won't spoil past page 4... But I'll put spoiler tags because there's no averting your eyes. (view spoiler)[ [image] (hide spoiler)] ...more |
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Dang, another great one. I realize I'm prone to extreme statements in reviews, but Mattie Ross is among my top 5 favorite characters from Jordabecker B Dang, another great one. I realize I'm prone to extreme statements in reviews, but Mattie Ross is among my top 5 favorite characters from Jordabecker Book Club Books. And we've read some great ones. A couple characters from The Stand make the cut. And Crime and Punishment... And of course, Ignatius J. Reilly. The Grapes of Wrath has great characters. And The Bonfire of the Vanities... Ok. Ok. There are too many great books out there. The point is, I love the character of Mattie Ross. She's gutsy, funny, determined, a real no nonsense type. And this book - it might not appeal to everyone if you just check out the front cover. I mean, Westerns aren't the typical chick-lit genre. But this was the Jordabecker's first "Joint Book Club Venture." A little background. The Jordabecker Book Club started a number of years ago, and was mocked mercilessly by my wife. It wasn't really a book club. It was just me and another guy reading a books and discussing them. A book "partnership" she called it. How many books have you read? She'd ask. "Uhhh... 4" "And haven't you been together 2 years?" "Uhhhh..." But it was fun. And then we started reading more regularly. We invited a couple friends, and it's since expanded into the booming 6 member club it is today. And then... and then my wife started a club. And she's set herself up to be mocked and mocked. (We are in a totally loving relationship, by the way... I'm not sure if that's coming through in this... uh... "review"...) At any rate. Her book club, and our book club joined forces with this book. It was a pretty big success - especially since only half the conversation was dominated by members discussing which book club made the other book club look pathetic. This was a great book for the joint book club. And it was interesting seeing what everybody brought to the table and discussed. A few things: (view spoiler)[Everybody was always proving themselves in this book - and they were always so defensive. I loved the scene where they were shooting biscuits. Mattie - the one they were forced to drag along, was the only one keeping them on task. LaBoeuf and Rooster were always playing a game of one-upmanship. Discussing how far they could shoot. Who was better at this or that. Mattie's blunt nature is hilarious. The "one would be as unpleasant as the other" comment is classic. And Rooster's comments are often very ironic and humorous as well - like - when he talked about not liking being chased down and shot at "like a thief" for stealing from a bank - I think it was. The ending though - the climax - was crazy and just enough without going over... I'm going to spoil it if you haven't read it, so if you haven't - stop now... Seriously, she's in a pit. In the dark. An unknown bottomless pit below her. Her father's murderer above her. A rotten corpse in front of her. With a nest of poisonous snakes inside. Bats nipping at her feet. She's stuck. ...Her thought? Well this is a "pretty fix." A pretty fix indeed. (hide spoiler)] Read it. It's a short easy read, and it's a classic. A win-win for anybody's list. ...more |
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I'm glad I had Mrs. Smeltzer for Chemistry. Seriously, that lady was an institution in and of herself at my high school. I may not have aced (or Beece
I'm glad I had Mrs. Smeltzer for Chemistry. Seriously, that lady was an institution in and of herself at my high school. I may not have aced (or Beeced... or even possibly Ceeced) the class, but I learned a lot. I'm not sure I would be ranking this book three stars if I didn't have her. I bet most people who've read this have some background knowledge of Chemistry, Physics, and the Periodic Table in general... While I thought the book was good, it was probably too hyped for me. My goodreads idol - Binks - wrote the first review I saw, and his goodreads word is gold in my mind. Then I saw other gushing reviews as well from other trusted goodreaders Lisa and Sandi. Finally, one of my librarians picked it as one of their top books of 2010. And the book was good. The only reason it disappointed was because it didn’t plug into the back of my brain and teach me Chemistry Matix style. I think it was too hyped, and I was anticipating it being pure fun, and while Kean broke apart these complex theories and made them manageable, you can only simplify things like relativity, alpha, and quantum physics in general down so far. Eventually you have to accept that it’s just some tough shiest to learn. ... I mean, Bunsen burners I get, (named after Robert Bunsen, mind you. A delightful little story...) and I thought I understood bubbles, but no... even those are too complex. (Did you know there are antibubbles?) Once again, I find myself getting too negative about a book I liked. There was tons of fascinating stuff in here. The boy scout who made a nuclear reactor in his backyard in Michigan. The story of Fritz Haber was among the most haunting, chilling and ironic vignettes I’ve ever read. (A Jewish (Lutheran convert) fighting for the Germans in WWI as a chemical weapons expert...) The rationale behind aluminum’s capping the Washington Monument was interesting - as was the creepiness behind discovering X-Rays. That must have been weird. You always hear about the Curies. They were like the Lois and Clark of Science – if Lois gets most of the powers (and a reputation for being a flirt.) And poor Pierre. Seriously, that man was robbed of a Nobel. By a horse. Would I recommend the book? Yes. But cautiously. It was an interesting read; it was fun. It wasn’t fluff. ...more |
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Am I so desensitized that I didn't find these stories scary? Not even a little bit? I mean, maybe the idea of a couple of them is scary... [image] No do Am I so desensitized that I didn't find these stories scary? Not even a little bit? I mean, maybe the idea of a couple of them is scary... [image] No doubt, Jackson is ahead of her time. The progressive themes in her writing resonate today. The underling themes in the way she addresses women and people of color in her writing, for instance. I enjoyed, and more than that, appreciated a number of her stories here. But this book shouldn't canonize her as a "master of horror." Some blurbs, for context: "A study in nightmare - by the most haunting writer of this generation." "The lottery will haunt you forever." "Fantasy ranging from humorous whimsy to horrifying shock." "Miss Jackson can summon up stark terror, make your blood chill and your scalp prickle..." Etc, etc... Still, the stories do haunt. But more like the way nuclear waste piling up haunts us. Or maybe more like a remembrance of a time you were bullied and unsure why. Or being haunted by a moment of awkward acquiescence. (You know, you invited a friend over for dinner... they invited someone else, and you didn't know that other person was coming. They overstay their welcome, and you want to go to bed, but you're an awkward person and things get weird... now three days later you're still reliving it, wondering what you should have done differently...) Scary, and stomach-churning for sure. ...But not in the way I typically think of "horrifying." Jackson found a way to capture the dream-like/reality-questioning aura found in the horror genre. In "The Intoxicated" we have a girl who is hopefully bananas. In "Colloquy" where Mrs. Arnold says, "Is everyone really crazy but me?" When Randall Flagg shows up in "The Tooth." It's tough to know what's real, and what isn't. Still, I most of the stories were more "bait and switch" than horror. And many of the stories seemed so connected in theme they were nearly identical. Parallel universes of the same story. ("Like Mother Used to Make," "Trial by Combat" and "The Villager" all (view spoiler)[ involved going into somebody's apartment that wasn't theirs, and then pretending they were the ones who belonged there after all... (hide spoiler)]) My favorite story, Flower Garden, addressed the subtle (and-so-subtle) racism of the 1940s (and 50s. And 60s. And 70s. And 80s. And 90s. And 2000s. And 20-10s... That's what I mean about her being ahead of her time.) Though part of me thinks that type of racism is now only found in pockets of the US, another part of me recognizes that indeed: the political climate says otherwise. And much like "Like Mother Used to Make," "Trial by Combat," and "The Villager" are all the same story, "Flower Garden" and "The Lottery" are really types of the same story: (view spoiler)[ An outsider thinking they're on the inside - knowing in their heart what's going to happen. (hide spoiler)] Finally, I have to add my thoughts on The Dummy. Have you seen Arrested Development? I have no doubt that Franklin was written with Shirley Jackson's "The Dummy" in mind. Best of Franklin Bluth. ...more |
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"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." - W.B.Yeats The quote above comes from the poem, The Second Coming - "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." - W.B.Yeats The quote above comes from the poem, The Second Coming - from which Things Fall Apart derives its name. That in itself is interesting. For Achebe, writing about the horrors of losing ones native culture, to choose a line from a Yeats poem. Things Fall Apart. They certainly do. Always. And always. This was a paradoxically simple and complex book. It is accessible and readable, but there is much going on below the surface. I was shocked after reading it that so many people believed that Achebe was writing Black = Bad and White = Good. How can anyone come away with that? Okonkwo was brutal, but was he more brutal than the District Commissioner? Certainly not. And how can we not feel sympathetic to his plight when everything started falling apart? Was the book so much about the colonization of Africa? Or was it about inevitability? And if it was about inevitability, what does that say about where we are heading? The book is about Absolute Truth. And it makes arguments - compelling ones - both for it, and against. There is a lot going on in this book. More than I will give to this review, even if I had the time. I can't do it justice. But a couple points: Nwoye is weak. And he almost never comes across looking good. In fact, he almost comes across as a traitor. Ezeudu warned Okonkwo not to have a hand in Ikemefuna's death. But Okonkwo was afraid of looking weak. And the District Commissioner has all the power. He is strong. And Mr. Smith, the second missionary is culturally unaware. And stubborn. And passionately intense. Like Okonkwo. Like the District Commissioner. And Mr. Brown - the first missionary was weak - even though "his mission grew from strength to strength." He was culturally aware, and loving, and understanding, and patient. He lacked the conviction of Mr. Smith. He lacked conviction of Okonkwo, who was always so sure of himself. Titles are important. If you're wondering who the "good guys" and "bad guys" are in this story, I think you're missing the point. Everyone comes in at a sharp angle, bringing in their preconceived notions of what the culture and society should be. Maybe some are right, and some are wrong, but it's with all those sharp angles meeting that cut and cause things to fall apart. In the story, they are all people at once good and bad as individuals. And they all think they are acting rightly. But titles are important, and there's something to be said for "The Second Coming" which is an obvious reference to Jesus Christ. And yet, the Emmanuel at the end of the poem is far from a loving savior. Titles are important, and there's something to be said for the line "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." But that (and this review) is a vast oversimplification. ...more |
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[image] (If you want to see my rationale for including this picture, it's in the (If you want to see my rationale for including this picture, it's in the The House of the Scorpion is Young-Adult Dystopic Fiction (YADF)before YADF became cool. Before YADF became it's own genre. Scorpion was originally published in 2002, just as the wizarding craze was gripping youth (and adults) of the literary world. I can't make the claim that House of the Scorpion started the current ubiquitous YADF movement, after all 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, The Handmaid's Tale, Animal Farm, etc... have been around for a while. And while they can hardly be considered "YA" they've been read by a significant amount of middle school and high school students. At any rate, I can't make the claim that Scorpion started the craze, but it undoubtedly was a major contributor, winning multiple significant awards. Generally, the key component or theme of dystopian/dystopic fiction is power and control from a sociopolitical perspective, and more specifically how those in power manipulate the population to maintain control (or some semblance, subjugating the will of the masses)... Different stories use different methods: drugs, double-speak, psychological warfare, censorship, feeding paranoia, surgery, etc... Scorpion, like it's more recent counterpart The Hunger Games looks at two opposite and unfortunate systems of control imposed by those in authority. However, whereas HG (view spoiler)[contrasts the excess of the Capitol and the deprivation of District 13 (hide spoiler)] Scorpion compares extremes of two economic systems - the extreme Capitalist system under El Patron, and the extreme Communist system under The Keepers. Some might argue that The Hunger Games is also an indictment against both of these (view spoiler)[Snow representing unbridled Capitalism, Coin unbridled Communism (hide spoiler)]. I believe this is true, but HG dealt more with principles, than production. This makes it less about economics and more about politics. Scorpion, like many other dystopic books, attempts to tackle some bio-ethical questions as well including (view spoiler)[issues of cloning, human-ness, organ harvesting, inserting chips to subjugate the certain populations and undesirables. (hide spoiler)] Bio-ethical questions have always been worthy of discussion, and maybe should have been discussed more at times. 731. Now that we have a decent map of human DNA, it seems the issue of cloning is especially relevant. (Especially since so many countries don't have laws banning it.) There have been enough "science goes wrong" stories to make me at least question the necessity of cloning. (Think of Frankenstein, or Splice.) There's a deeply troubling scene in Scorpion where (view spoiler)[Matt sees MacGregor's clone at the hospital and the reader first learns the true purpose of the clones, and why their brains/ability to process are destroyed. If they knew their purpose was to be raised only to be harvested for their organs, they'd probably want to fight back. (Monty Python's 'Can We Have Your Liver' (Viewer Discretion Advised)) So, they keep the clones (and eejits) ignorant so they don't fight back. But El Patron always gave his clones the life he never had. This is why it reminded me of the portrait by William Spang. The arming of the slave does not refer to the gun in the background, but rather the book he is reading. We don't know what we don't know. And there's no way out unless we have someone to show us the way out. So, the book is as much an indictment of slavery as anything else. The question for clones, slaves, eejits, and... dare I say our own society, is "Who will show us the way?" (hide spoiler)] At any rate here's the ending spoiler: (view spoiler)[ I didn't like the ending. It was too neat. Matteo goes back and the thugs accept him because International Law says he IS El Patron now...? ...? I don't think so. They've been too indoctrinated against clones to buy it. They'd gut him and run the opium farms on their own. Nice try though. (hide spoiler)] ...more |
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"What I hate is the thought of being under a man's thumb." (p. 221) Our all-male book club read and discussed this feminist classic last week. An odd c "What I hate is the thought of being under a man's thumb." (p. 221) Our all-male book club read and discussed this feminist classic last week. An odd choice, perhaps, but reading is meant to broaden our perspectives. And just because we're all bearded, testosterone-laden cretins, doesn't mean all of us are anti-feminism, or misogynists. We had read The Catcher in the Rye as our choice before this one. When I chose this book, I was unaware of the parallels - of which there are many. I only knew that Sylvia Plath had died by suicide, and that this book dealt a bit with mental illness. I didn't let on how much I loved the book. I play book club close to the chest, as people care deeply about what they read - either affirmative or negative. We spent much of our time on Plath's observations on propriety and confusing societal norms. I bet we spent an hour discussing whether or not we tip for carry-out. And what about tipping in places like hardware stores - where their receipt machine prints out a "tip" line? What about hotels? I was at a restaurant a couple months ago, and they used the square that gives you three options. You know what they were? 25%, 30%, 35%. I'm no cheapskate, but I AM on teacher pay. So when Plath talks about "having some very unsettling experiences trying to tip people in New York," we could all relate. You don't have to go to New York to have those experiences. I found those parts very funny. It was an odd humor - like the humor in Cather in the Rye. But those discussion may have kept us from getting into some of the more difficult material. (Although, we did a bit. We don't shy away from anything, we just get started on one thing and enjoy ourselves.) Esther Greenwood (the protagonist) is trapped under a bell jar, and within her own head. The difficulty of mental illness - both when this was written, and now - became apparent when Esther's mother said, "I knew you'd decide to be all right again." - (p. 146, emphasis mine.) We don't "decide" to be all right after physical injuries, or pneumonia. We may have to work at getting better - and do things that encourage healing, but it's not a decision. This is a theme throughout works that deal with mental illness. Given that art inspires art, I imagine that artists who have struggled with depression, anxiety, and/or suicide. Like, Plath's line, "I saw the days of the year stretching ahead like a series of bright white boxes, and separating one box from another was sleep, like a black shade. Only for me, the long perspective of shades that set off one box from the next had suddenly snapped up, and I could see day after day after day glaring ahead of me like a white, broad, infinitely desolate avenue. It reminded me so much of the song Every Single Night by Fiona Apple. "Every single night's a fight with my brain. ...I just want to feel everything..." Or Plath's, "At this point I began to feel peculiar. I looked round me at all the rows of rapt little heads with the same silver glow on them at the front and the same black shadow on them at the back, and they looked nothing more or less than a lot of stupid moonbrains." The wording reminded me so of David Foster Wallace's opening, "I am seated in an office, surrounded by heads and bodies." Maybe it's a stretch, but I can imagine the three of them as friends having coffee and cigarettes, discussing a book or politics, or tipping. The New York Times describes poet Sam Sax's poem "Prediagnosis" as dealing with "those intensities between feeling nothing and feeling everything." And that he's a poet who is "addicted to feeling." (The poem - found here at the New York Times comes from his collection, Madness, by the way.) Sylvia Plath is like that. She wants to experience everything, because she wants to feel everything. This is most clear in her famous fig tree analogy - my favorite of the book: "I saw my life branching out before me like the green fig tree in the story. From the tip of every branch, like a fat purple fig, a wonderful future beckoned and winked. One fig was a husband and a happy home and children, and another fig was a famous poet and another fig was a brilliant professor, and another fig was Ee Gee, the amazing editor, and another fig was Europe and Africa and South America, and another fig was Constantin and Socrates and Attila and a pack of other lovers with queer names and offbeat professions, and another fig was an Olympic lady crew champion, and beyond and above these figs were many more figs I couldn't quite make out. The Master of None clip of it is worth watching. Definitely worth reading. Some new words that I'm embarrassed to have not known or forgotten: vichyssoise, dybbuk, dirndl, bosky, diaphanous, jodhpurs, puling ...more |
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**spoiler alert** This book may top my all-time favorites list. Though, as any reader knows, that's difficult to tell until after you've given yoursel
**spoiler alert** This book may top my all-time favorites list. Though, as any reader knows, that's difficult to tell until after you've given yourself some time to see if you still like it after a couple weeks/ months... Yes, the book was long. 1153 pages. I saw a lot of reviews that said, "blah blah blah this book was too long." (Yes, that is an exact quote of at least 17 different reviews. Take the time to look them up if you don't believe me.) In the books defense, it was really 3 books. (You can tell, because before each book it says BOOK I or BOOK II... yes or BOOK III... did I REALLY have to put that in the review?) King said he'd wanted to make an American Lord of the Rings with The Stand. The Stand is not NEARLY as long as all three of those books put together. And there a quite a few less Elfin people. (What are they called again?) Here's a quick summary of each of the 3 books: *SPOILER ALERT* Book 1: A plague wipes out the world. It's pretty nasty. It makes me wonder why Bristol Palin named her kid Tripp as the disease is called Captain Tripp's. She must not have read the book. Captain Tripp's was a biological weapon. I heard King got the idea from reading about a such a weapon that got out and killed some sheep and the newspaper said something to the extent of, luckily the wind was blowing east. ... I won't stake my life on that story though. The government tries to cover up it's mistake, but the damage is done and the world ends save for a handful of people and a dog or two. Book 1 follows them slowly tying their stories together. Book 2: Two sides are forming. Good guys and bad guys. Mordore... Moordoor... Moardore?.... and ... The Shire? Book 2 is all about the ways the sides recruit, what they stand for, who the leaders are, why we want the good guys to win... Book 3: The good guys make a stand. Any LOST fan should read the book. Or, at least LOST super-fans should read it. The structure is the same. Many characters were drawn from. Lots of events... etc... Extra fun if you happen to be a fan of that show. Watch Season 3's extra, "LOST Book Club." ...more |
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First off, if you're going to read Neuromancer, or in the middle of reading Neuromancer, I'd read this article. I found it very helpful. You know what First off, if you're going to read Neuromancer, or in the middle of reading Neuromancer, I'd read this article. I found it very helpful. You know what deja vu is? I feel like I'm having it. I went to start typing my review of Neuromancer, and saw that it was on my shelf twice: [image] So, I guess I had added this to my shelf all the way back in aught-eight. To tell you the truth, I went into reading this cold. I knew pretty much nothing about it. The guy that teaches beside me... lets call him... Dan. Yeah, that sounds good... (view spoiler)[Dan is his real name. For real, for real. (hide spoiler)] Dan recommended it to me a while back. He had read it for a Graduate Level class on post-modern literature. I said, "Sure, Dan. I'll read it." Dan also knew I was part of a book club, so every once in a while he'd suggest that I read it for book club. Now, book club book picks come around less than once a year. It's not a choice to be taken lightly. But as it came highly recommended from a reliable source, because it has become part of the cultural cannon, and because it won several prestigious awards: Hugo; Nebula; Philip K. Dick - I thought, sure: I'll give it a shot. I had NO idea of its ties to The Matrix. None. How is that possible? Especially given that The Matix may be my all-time favorite movie? (I hem and haw between that and a couple others. Don't judge. I'm very indecisive.) I don't know how it happened. But I believe if I hadn't watched it, I'd have had no blooming idea what was going on in that book. Perhaps it's unfortunate that I read it through the lens of The Matrix, because they're not the same works. But I think I got more out of it this way. It's difficult to quantify how much Gibson influenced literature or language. Certainly there were words that didn't exist before this book that are now common: cyberspace, for one. But how many other words came from the book? Microsoft? Software? Matrix? I'm not a linguist, so there's no way I'll be giving any definitive data on this. Someone should, though. I googled a lot of the words. For instance, a lot of kids listen to Dubstep these days. ...I mean, a LOT. And there's a line, "As they worked, Case gradually became aware of the music that pulsed constantly through the cluster. It was called dub, a sensuous mosaic cooked from vast libraries of digitized pop..." (p. 104) Now, according to google and (the always faithful) wikipedia, the word dub - in reference to music - has been around since the 1940s at least. And it's reggae/Rastafarian/Jamaican roots make sense in context of Zion and what's going on in the book. Still, the way dub is described sounds so much more like modern dub/ dubstep to me. Then again, what do I know? It's not lost on me that I used my cell phone, bouncing digital signals off towers and satellites, to search through other people's information to find out what words in this futuristic book about cyberspace mean. It took me a while to realize they were in Japan, and that many of the words Gibson created were actually Japanese words. (Check out that link at the top of the review.) I ended up keeping my phone out the whole time and using the google app to look up words. Then, I'd take a screen shot of it: [image] ...or... [image] ...Great... Now I have to look up... [image] There were some tough words. Thank goodness for cyberspace. (You see what I did there?) True, the cyberspaces Gibson imagine aren't exactly like our internets. Well, some were. Others are more like VR gaming. Or World of Warcraft. (Or, more appropriately, what I imagine WoW to be...) And (for now) my online self isn't as real as my physical self. Even though what we put online has actual consequences in our lives today. (Does anybody remember this tweet?) [image] (view spoiler)[ For the record, it looks like Mr. Jones is going to ride this storm out, and be just fine... what with a National Championship game under his belt and all... Also, I couldn't put any of my own tweets up there. They're too embarrassing... (hide spoiler)] So much of the book seems prescient, looking back. The music (p. 104), the holographic concerts (p. 138), the drones (p. 151-2), cyberspace, (p. seriously... like... every page in the book...), corporations becoming people... Okay, I've just got to give the full quote on this one: "Power, in Case's world, meant corporate power. The zaibatsus, the multinationals that shaped the course of human history, had transcended old barriers. Viewed as organisms, they had attained a kind of immortality. You couldn't kill a zaibatsu by assassinating a dozen key executives; there were others waiting to step up the ladder, assume the vacated position, access the vast banks of corporate memory..." (p. 203) ...Prescient, am I right? And along the same lines: "We have sealed ourselves away behind our money, growing inward, generating a seamless universe of self. (p. 143) It seems then, that Gibson was not just right on about the technological future he was envisioning, but also the political and corporate futures. ...At least, to an extent. ...It is narrative, after all. Many thanks to Dan, for recommending a great book club book. Sorry it took years to get to it. I have an old friend, and fellow goodreader who used to end all his reviews with "new words." While there are too many to list from this book, here are some I came up with: semiotics, sigil, geodesic, arcology, hypnagogic (that one's my favorite... I'll be incorporating into my everyday usage), ...let alone invented words like simstim and cyberspace. There are too many. I'd be here forever. (Is it bad that I wasn't sure what "augment" meant?) ...more |
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I have like... 6 pages of notes on this book. It was my pick for the Jordabecker Book Club and I think it was a good choice. We hadn't done a book of essays and we weren't sure how it would go, but it went well. If one particular essay didn't grip us, perhaps another would. I think we all found something we could relate to. I read "Shooting an Elephant" out loud to my 7th grade class. It ties in wonderfully with the standards. Here you go, I pulled a couple from The Indiana Dept of Education. Go ahead and click on it. For real. Then check the 7th grade box and the Social Studies box. Expand the standards and tell me how I should teach those in 180 45 minute classes. (I think I'm doing a pretty d*** good job by the way.) Anyway, here are the 2. Sorry about the tirade. 7.1.17 Exploration, Conquest and Post-Colonial States: 1500 to the Present. Describe the impact of industrialization, urbanization and globalization in post-colonial South Africa, India, Japan, China and Kenya. (Core Standard) 7.1.18 Exploration, Conquest and Post-Colonial States: 1500 to the Present. Identify and describe recent conflicts and political issues between nations or cultural groups. (Core Standard) Example: Sudan (Darfur) and North and South Korea I realize "Shooting an Elephant" deals with Burma and not India, but it's still the British Raj and we watch a bunch of Gandhi excerpts. Anyway, that essay alone is platinum. Not to over-hype it, but it is. The British Empire dying, the elephant ambiguously representing both the Empire, and Burmese culture at the same time. Dang it's good. I read it out loud to the kids and we discuss it. Many of them understand the different levels after a little discussion, and I'll spoon-feed those that don't. But there's other gold in this book as well. I found "A Hanging" particularly moving and troubling. As someone who loves to read and promote literacy I loved "Why I Write," "Bookshop Memories," and "Confessions of a Book Reviewer." (Although, it made me wonder how often I'm duped into reading books that blow. But it also made me glad to review books for fun and personal intellectual expanse rather than for money.) I was disappointed in some of the essays though. With a title like, "Good Bad Books" you'd think you couldn't go wrong, but it was SOOOOO dated. Who knows? Maybe 75 years from now when somebody comes across Stephanie Meyer they'll have to (the 75 years in the future equivalent of)google the reference. The political writings were fun, and I could often see kindling for the great fires of 1984 and Animal Farm in them. "How the Poor Die" was moving, but not as moving as "A Hanging." Our book club also read For Whom the Bell Tolls by Hemingway, so it reading, "Looking Back on the Spanish War" was a nice connection. I love it when that happens at book clubs. One last thing before this yeti of a review gets too far out of hand, Orwell argues in "The Sporting Spirit" that international organized sports are, contrary to what the Olympics and world cup people tell you, a bad institution. I'm sure most everyone would be quick to jump in and disagree. We've been programmed that way I guess. But bring up a one Diego Maradonna to any decent English Football fan and see if it breeds goodwill. I had the guys listen to The Business Handball and Maradona during book club at Starbucks to drive the point home. ...more |
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I don't think I've ever read a book with a more overt Christ-figure as the protagonist. ...Well, other than the Bible, of course. (A few examples: Owe
I don't think I've ever read a book with a more overt Christ-figure as the protagonist. ...Well, other than the Bible, of course. (A few examples: Owen's voice is in ALL CAPS. ALL THE TIME. IT WAS DIFFICULT NOT TO READ IT AS SHOUTING AT FIRST, EVENTUALLY I STARTED READING IT AS THE RED-LETTER EDITION OF THE BIBLE. Or the more overt examples: (view spoiler)[he played the baby Christ in the Christmas production. (You don't get more overt than that.) He spoke with authority. He had absolute faith. He was tempted and tried. He sacrificed himself for others - people he didn't know. And while he didn't exactly come back corporeally, he spoke to Johnny. (hide spoiler)] Yet, A Prayer for Owen Meany was hardly proselytizing. It was religious - Christian religious - but also often irreverent. While it lacked a tight plot, the literary usage, and character development were outstanding. I often feel like book plots are too tight. Everything fits together too perfectly. That was not a problem in Meany. But the use of foreshadowing, symbolism, dramatic imagery, irony, unreliable narrator, etc... was woven very tightly. It all kept coming back around perfectly: the hail storm, the dummy, the angel of death... I loved the dichotomy of faith and doubt. (One pastor claiming "Doubt is the essence of faith." Another believing whole-heartedly without doubt.) And John Irving is often subtle in his writing. Our narrator (who is overshadowed by Meany) is an English teacher discussing The Great Gatsby. His students are talking: "I think the guy who's telling the the story is a snog," said Adrienne Hewlett. "Nick," I said softly. "Nick Carraway." Nobody remembers Nick Carraway. They only remember Jay Gatsby. And nobody remembers Johnny Wheelwright. Subtle? Overt? Again, those words are one and the same. I often wish Goodreads would be a place where I can expound on ideas, but I've had quite a few books ruined by this site, so I shy away from that. I would love to see someone write an essay comparing Gravesend Academy's new Headmaster, Randy White to the NCAA's President Mark Emmert, or Indiana DOE's former Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Bennett. Here's what Owen Meany said: "THE TRUSTEES LIKE BUSINESSMEN - THE TRUSTEES ARE BUSINESSMEN! THE FACULTY ARE A BUNCH OF TYPICAL TEACHERS - INDECISIVE, WISHY-WASHY, THEY'RE ALWAYS SAYING 'ON THE OTHER HAND.' NOW ALONG COMES THIS GUY WHO SAYS HIS SPECIALTY IS MAKING DECISIONS. ONCE HE STARTS MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, HE'LL DRIVE EVERYONE CRAZY - WAIT UNTIL EVERYONE SEES WHAT BRILLIANT DECISIONS THE GUY COMES UP WITH! BUT RIGHT NOW, EVERYONE THINKS SOMEONE WHO MAKES DECISIONS IS JUST WHAT WE NEED. RIGHT NOW, EVERYONE'S A SUCKER FOR A DECISION-MAKER. WHAT GRAVESEND NEEDS IS A HEADMASTER WITH A STRONG EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND..." Good book. Recommendably good. ...more |
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Do you ever hear about something and then suddenly you see it everywhere? That's the way it was for me with this book. We had talked about reading it
Do you ever hear about something and then suddenly you see it everywhere? That's the way it was for me with this book. We had talked about reading it for book club (which at the time consisted of me and another guy... I'm not sure if that qualifies as a club - but when Bret and Jemaine get mugged by two people it's agreed that two can be a gang. The smallest gang there is...) We'd discussed reading it, but then read The Grapes of Wrath which I began hearing tons of stuff about too. But this book kept coming up. It came up in conversation. People recommended it to me. NPR did a piece detailing the candidates love for the protagonist Robert Jordan, and another story about McCain's life as a P.O.W. as compared to the theme of duty in FWTBT. This stuff was popping up everywhere. Sadly, the book was a letdown. Maybe it was the hype. Maybe it was my sister. Maybe I actually just got bored with it. I understand the points on duty, sacrifice, and honor. Maybe those wouldn't have come across if it wasn't drawn out as much as it was. The writing style was unique - the way Hemingway breaks into different Spanish dialects by using old English and Modern English - as well as interspersing actual Spanish in there as well. I also particularly liked the way Agustin was written - with his obscenities written as, "obscenity." (i.e. I obscenity in the milk of the fascists.) I had to reread the love scenes two or three times before I even understood what was going on... wow. Were they bad. "This, that they were not to have, they were having. They were having now and before and always and now and now and now and now. Oh, now, now, now, the only now, and above all now, and there is no other now but thou now and now is thy prophet..." Yikes. It was good to have read Faith of My Fathers before reading this. It gave me even more perspective. And there were times where I could understand more clearly what McCain was talking about in his book. (Like knowing more intimately the people he was in the POW camp with than anybody else in the world. - Jordan says the same thing about Pilar and Pablo and the others...) Anyway. I generally judge people pretty harshly for not liking the books I like. (Sorry, it's true.) If you're a fan I understand if you think I'm nuts. I mean, the man won the Nobel Prize and I'm giving him a two star review. Someone out there's gotta be saying, "who the heck does he think he is?" Me? I'm just a guy. Just a guy who didn't like a book as much as he thought he was going to. ...more |
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"We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold." "...We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets o "We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold." "...We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls." I don't think I can understate this: that was a lot of drugs. I thought this was a fun book club, but I thought it could have been even more fun if we all brought along our drug of choice. However, saner (or at least, more legally mindful) heads prevailed and the only drugs we had were caffeine and a couple beers. And only a minority of club members imbibed. I had been planning on reading this book for years. I didn't know when, but I knew it was going to happen. That opening line is classic. It's been a top-3 favorite since I first heard it - but I still had never read the book. So, it was maybe 3 years ago when I decided to put this into the cue. I've known for about 3 years when I was going to read this book... And RIGHT BEFORE WE READ IT the person before me picked Camelot's End: Kennedy vs Carter and the Fight That Broke the Democratic Party. That might not seem like a big deal. It didn't to me. But Hunter S. Thompson made several appearances in it. He called Jimmy Carter one of the three meanest people he ever met. He said he (Carter) would "cut my head off to carry North Dakota. He'd cut both your legs off to carry a ward in the Bronx. Never apologize for it. He understands the system. That's why he won..." (This review pushed me to look for that clip. Bam. Here it is.) It seemed like a sign. I loved the book. It was insane and fun and horrible at the same time. You know that scene in Spinal Tap where the amps go to 11? Well, this book is like that, except on steroids. Or cocaine. Or PCP. Probably all of the above, actually. It was just so much. Excess. Extravagance. Hedonism. Paranoia. And Horror. I don't want to spoil too much (consider this your warning) but half the book dealt with them (as journalists) going to and covering a National DA Convention. I mean, I've never seen Reefer Madness, but dang. Talk about your misinformation. I'm not sure who I was more mad at: the DAs - and their spreading of misinformation, or Thompson and his lawyer... And while I understand that it was a book dealing with excess, the scene (view spoiler)[with the girl... you know... the raping of the girl. Then drugging her and taking her to another hotel and hoping that she would forget about it. The prospect of pimping her out to the DAs who (in Vegas) may be willing to gang rape her for pay... Yeah. That was too much... (hide spoiler)] It was sometimes difficult to distinguish between fact and embellishments. But I'm chalking that up to major embellishment in search of gonzo-ing and redefining and perhaps parodying the American Dream. And that, if anything was what this book was about: The American Dream. What is it? What is it not? How do you chase it? And can it be captured? You're all a bunch of squares. A last thought from my father-in-law on the book. He texted me this: "Here is my favorite Hunter Thompson quote. I don't really subscribe to it, but I appreciate it. "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly use up, totally worn out, loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a ride!'" [graphic content warning](view spoiler)[And in his older age when he was confined to a wheelchair because of illness, he put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. As gruesome as that is, I think he was true to himself to the very end. (hide spoiler)]" ...more |
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